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Anthony's avatar

In-a-lien-able means that your Rights are "in a lien"....you would think that she would have used un-a-lien-able Rights....either way, from what I can tell, her message is very good. That's the only question I have....

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iconX's avatar

This seems like a great idea but is there a legal path to formally bring it forward and get it done? Would a congressman have to draft a bill? It seems mute to rely of governors who have already been captured. Is there a concise and effective path to reclaim state citizenship and forfeit federal citizenship if one choses to do this on an individual basis?

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Mark Iverson's avatar

Excellent questions! Some states are leaning more in the direction of reducing dependence on federal funds. Do they have the cajones to do something so ‘radical’? Probably not, but it was worth a try.

My strategy with the letter to governors (and AGs) was to show how they could reclaim their citizens from federal citizenship. Once that is done it most likely eliminates federal income tax liability, and the state could raise state income taxes to offset any loss of federal funds. obviously the ideal would be to not need to raise state taxes at all… but at least the citizens are only having to deal with local government.

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iconX's avatar

Thanks for the reply Mark. I'd like to see ideas like these take root in the public discourse. Good work you are doing. It's encouraging to see people like yourself doing some serious and smart thinking on how to fix things.

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Anthony's avatar

I would be all for excluding federal citizenship all together and to replace it with state citizenship. However, that state citizenship would have to be dejour, therefore it means that particular state would have to secede from the federal corporation in order for that state citizenship to be a successful.

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Mark Iverson's avatar

Agreed Anthony!!

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Mark Iverson's avatar

Keep up the critical thinking!!!🤔

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Anthony's avatar

Who's Gianna? I'd like to check her out! And thank you! The critical thinking is very important if you're going to actually use this information.

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Mark Iverson's avatar

on X.com, @LegalFockery or her website,

https://www.giannamiceli.com/university

In my opinion one only attains patriot status when they give useful knowledge for free. the only way we the peeps are going to overcome decades of indoctrination into the current legal system is when the majority of voters know what me and others are teaching. charging $ for this understanding will only delay or prevent it from happening.

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Anthony's avatar

Ok, after looking at Gianna's website again, I now have a question. Shouldn't she be using the word Unalienable instead of Inalienable in her title? Unalienable = "not in a lien" and Inalienable = "in a lien". Any thoughts on this?

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Anthony's avatar

Thank you for the information! I took a look at her website and I think she definitely has a good message! Can't wait to listen to her!

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Mark Iverson's avatar

I am hopeful since my deep dives into all this was in the 1980s and 90s. I tried to ‘spread the word’ when i had a chance but there was no interest at all. yes, i could hang out with likeminded folks but that wouldn’t really help. so i just moved on with life, occasionally coming across new info, but it wasn’t until obvious election fraud, covid, mrna debacle, the tremendous corruption in government, that enough of the population was open to hearing and looking into what people like me, brandon joe, and gianna were teaching.

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